Im not much of a miner. But what exactly am I seeing here?

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/resource-companion-blog

It's looks to me like they're adding huge amounts of trit and pyreite to all the high end ore.

Someone explain how this will affect ore prices.

Hisec miners can kiss their income goodbye, and Spod will return to being the least valuable ore in the game (adding 10k of something worth 0 ISK means you are reducing the value of that ore).

Good job, CCP. I though you were past the sledge-hammer-instead-of-a-scalpel approach to rebalancing?

Can't run a company with no income.

It's the ore types themselves, so grav sites... oh wait...

E: Aren't grav sites being redone? If not, WHs should see this change.

Doesn't seem very ambiguous, and doesn't seem to distinguish between upgrades and exploration as you're claiming.

We will also be making a significant change to the way hidden asteroid belts will be found by players.

This is not correct:
One batch of Spod (4,000 m3) refines into 71,000 trit >> /4,000 = 17.75 trit per m3
One batch of Veld (33.3 m3) refines into 1,000 trit >> / 33.3 = 30.03 trit per m3

Conclusion: Veldspar holds 1.69x more trit (30.03/17.75).
Since Spodumain is easier to mine (larger rocks) this will give a large (and much needed) buff to nullsec mining.

Yeah, you're seriously confused. Hidden belts and grav sites are pretty clearly the same thing in that paragraph.

You would have to be daft to think that they're going to put in new ice belts (as anoms), convert upgrade-spawned sites to anoms, and leave exploration gravimetric sites as grav sigs, with the only indication being an extremely arbitrary bit of semantics that are functionally synonymous.

It quite clearly says, "We are phasing out the Gravimetric signature category."

They're going away.

Since the scan seems to happen on session change, i'd guess yes, depending on the distance.

edit: in WHs, the miner wouldn't have any indication you're even there, unless the WH you enter is within dscan range.

you guys are all posting #'s but what if they change the amount of ore required per refine?

that's what im curious about tbh is the amount of ore per refine going to stay the same or be changed.

yea but when do they add everything to the publics eye, there's always something stealthed into the game from time to time

I would expect miners to go out of their way to despawn low end sites to encourage more high end sites.

(2) The large sites are hideously undersupplied with low-end minerals, by a factor of something insane, about 200:1 or something ridiculous like that (Dave Stark, help me out here! *shines the StarkSignalGäó)

Well there you go, learn a new thing every day :)

Why do people ignore the XL/giant sites?

i, uh, don't think i have a spreadsheet for that...

let me make one!

Jaspet, Hemorphite, and Hedbergite are fine. The problem is Pyroxeres. It makes Nocxium cheap, lowering the value of lowsec ores. Why mine in lowsec when you can get all the Nocxium you need in highsec?

40% of what Hemorphite provides is not laughably low.

How it ranks in a lineup is an unnecessary point; what matters is how much it gives. And for a highsec ore, it gives too much. I guarantee you that more than half of the nocxium that comes from mining comes from Pyroxeres. That's because the vast majority of mining takes place in highsec.

I bet the price of tritanium doesn't deviate far from its year long averages. Maybe the steady increase we have seen starts to taper off.

especially with the Venture.

Which is what I base my reasoning on, when suggsting that Gneiss and Spod be rebalanced by adding high ends rather than low ends. Tritanium and Pyerite are far worse ISK/m3 than Nocxium and Zydrine. Thus while mineral compression exists, hauling of bulky refined minerals in null sec is going to be competing with jump freighter loads of 40:1 compressed minerals from Jita. One freighter load from Jita, or forty loads from two systems over?

I wouldn't want to be the poor ******* spending an entire evening schlepping a freighter around null.

deflation is not recession...

i think prices will go down to pre- drone poo nerf.